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wonderful preview so you can see your

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pleasure to be at the conference so far

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and the theme of Concilium sand the

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diversity in the room has been

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fascinating to me so I represent one

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fractal of that diversity and this is a

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picture that's compelling to me because

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when I was in high school I first met

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how Hal put off in Russell Targ NSRI and

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they were doing reviewing

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experimentation Stargate and I haven't I

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haven't stopped asking questions ever

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since so we're here today to talk about

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some of the research that we've been

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doing funding in subtle energy and in

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particular we're here to talk about a

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clear hypothesis

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perhaps a complimentary conciliate

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approach given our respective

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backgrounds as entrepreneurs and

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investors some of the research efforts

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we've been doing to date as the Meraki

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Institute and emerald gate and then also

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walking you through a little bit of a

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systems roadmap and mapping approach

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whereby we're looking to define a set of

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research priorities and would love the

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collaboration of people in this room

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because I think we're gonna collectively

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make a difference together now we've

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been talking about a pretty clear

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hypothesis over the past in a couple

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days we believe there are fundamental

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cracks in our Western scientific

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worldview right perhaps a mechanistic

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view of the world is insufficient

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perhaps complex systems are not

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reducible to their parts

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maybe not only material things are real

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in other words things that we can't see

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perhaps they also matter right and

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objects aren't entirely separate but

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rather are non locally connected across

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space and perhaps time right and the

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physical world is not independent of our

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observation but influenced by it so

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common themes we've been discussing for

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the past couple days now we've decided

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to focus on a particular aspect of this

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which is subtle energy and I think one

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of our collaborators dr. bill tiller

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characterized you know that there is a

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set of experimental data well beyond the

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four known forces in the universe and

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convert their their convertible to

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observe

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data through transducer like a living

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system our human body happens to be such

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a living system so we've we've

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identified many monikers for this prana

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cheeky subtle energy so we won't get

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caught up in in the monikers and we'll

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talk more about that a little later but

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suffice it to say that there appears to

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be a self-organizing field of influence

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perhaps an energetic field of

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information that has a certain set of

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characteristics we've heard over the

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course of the conference that's that's

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imprinted all to certain objects that it

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passively influences perhaps with no

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participant for it required and it

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affects across a distance non locally

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researching subtle energy as we know as

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it defies direct measurement today right

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transducer we have experimenter effects

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so not the easiest thing to research as

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we know and in fact to make matters

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familiar with the lack of funding right

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there is no clear focused consensus

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roadmap across all of the

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multidisciplinary people in the room

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right and from a methodological

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perspective we really don't have a

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consensus approved consistent or a

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necessarily highly highly rigorous

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approach to studying something as

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ethereal as this today right

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collaboration transdisciplinary right

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in the research relatively few

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quantitative outcomes right perhaps no

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common standards across educational for

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healers and the like or even subtle

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energy devices and then when it comes to

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language in lexicon we've heard this at

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least half a dozen times right what

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we're doing with our language can be

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confusing internally as well as

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externally so there's increasingly said

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of entrepreneurs corporate researchers

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businesspeople funders from other

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domains that have a sincere interest

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in helping move this space forward and

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after having left you know my corporate

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environment I used to run global R&D at

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a large software company been a venture

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capitalist for about a decade and a

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multi-time entrepreneur after that

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experience with Russell Targ and how put

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take the close look at indeed what has

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progressed and honestly we had ever more

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robust a set of evidence around all of

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these effects and that we're missing key

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pieces you know in this Western

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scientific worldview but not all that

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much had progressed in many ways and so

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you know so a number of us are taking a

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look at this and saying how can we help

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perhaps with a Concilium to proach to

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lean in and perhaps further accelerate

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the progress in the space so when it

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comes to each of these issues you know

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funding what is the prototypical

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entrepreneurial approach right that may

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be beneficial typically what we do is

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milestone gated funding enter with a

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clear hypothesis and scale as we

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validate hypotheses and reduce risk from

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a focus perspective we start with a set

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of pilot projects and move then quickly

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beyond theoretical to applied in

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practical applications we've heard a lot

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about that over the course of this past

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half week and then we typically do a

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detailed design up front and only then

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look to build and scale looking to

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remove the the the largest risk first on

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the cheapest capital and then from a

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methodological perspective iterate

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to systematically remove risk and with

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the premium on speed of learning right

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how do we progress and almost parse down

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this tree of unknowns at a relatively

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quick clip and a lot of this is truly

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about pattern recognition synthesis

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which is why this Concilium theme has

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been so fascinating to me by way of

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collaboration everything we do in the

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entrepreneurial world is with a

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multidisciplinary team of specialists in

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fact the outcomes are directly a

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function of the diversity in the room

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and from a data perspective we're

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typically in search of hard endpoints

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- clearly collaborate it clearly

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calibrate outcomes we're looking to

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broader system dynamic in other words

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what are the drivers and key mechanisms

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in the system and we focus on the

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outliers not unlike everybody in the

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room we're looking at the edge science

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interesting aspect to explore and

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frankly it also you know it also

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indicates quite an information asymmetry

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pioneer new markets oftentimes by

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shifting a worldview or a perspective

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lexicon issue and sometimes that

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involves messaging and positioning

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reframing for people in essence what

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we're talking about so what we'll be

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talking about over the course this

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afternoon is you know really platform

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for investment to further research

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having asked the question how can we

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help right and has a clarity focus

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established to continue in a

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self-sustaining way and continue to grow

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in perpetuity to be able to take on the

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multi decade you know level questions

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that we're asking ourselves and entirely

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independent with no particular agenda

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aside from the furthering of the of

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knowledge we'll be taking an iterative

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research and an invention approach

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looking to leverage a wide diversity of

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people across the multi disciplinary set

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of arenas and everything we do will be

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at this stage with partners partnering

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with the best individual researchers as

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well as universities and we will be

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absolutely systematic very rigorous

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outcomes focused right with fundamental

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and applied research looking to validate

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truly as a notion that consciousness is

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foundational and integrative to

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science we think people matter there are

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an impact on humans in ways that make a

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difference in their lives and any time

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locations it's really important to talk

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about ethical implications because some

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of these topics are so fascinating I'm

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an engineer are so technically

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point not unlike an Oppenheimer when he

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witnessed the explosion of you know the

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atomic bomb right and then you regret

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the unintended consequences so I think

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we're we're launching we believe it has

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launch a subtle energy economy right

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platform level ecosystem support so we

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touched upon you know the lack of

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standardization with subtle energy

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devices what would it look like to have

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devices to truly separate the wheat from

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the chaff right venture capital funding

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is something that we know well and

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capital markets as well to the extent

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that we we need to tap that we believe

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also be at some point an important

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aspect so what are the implications for

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all of us you know if we do this if we

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do this right is it indeed possible to

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legitimize you know frontier science

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about and actually bring that

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expediently into the scientific Canon

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experientially but they're not

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represented at all in our science today

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what would what would the blending of

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science and spirituality look like you

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know what would it mean to usher in a

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new paradigm of science and perhaps an

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attendant set of truly different

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methodologies that are required to study

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something as strange as the things that

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materialist worldview right one that

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perhaps is deeply interconnected right

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new awareness and direct experience

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understanding that so many so many

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look out I mean I look at some of the

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crises in today's world and I think that

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appears to be a crisis of consciousness

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among other things and I think perhaps a

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shift in human values toward deeper

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meaning and connectivity may be

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something that we all aspire toward and

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perhaps the work that we're all doing in

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this room you know may help lead in that

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direction now I started this journey

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about four years ago after being in the

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corporate world for many years and

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coming back and looking at it mad icky

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as a Greek word it's one of those words

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that exists only in one language in this

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case Greek and meta key means doing

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something purely for the love of it

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right and so the objective of some of my

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research that I've been involved in with

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dr. tiller and the like has been you

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know how do we accelerate a human shift

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in consciousness how do we uh sure in

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acceptance of such subtle energy effects

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right I rail against the notion that we

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are you know apathetic observers in a

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mechanistic world right but rather I

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personally believe we're active

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co-creators right in a purposeful

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meaningful universe and as a result

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we've held a high bar when it comes to

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the research indeed following the

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scientific method which we believe in

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firmly but focusing on these at home

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anomaly is it fall outside of the

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current paradigm that we believe will

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help us usher in perhaps that next

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paradigm so by way of example one of

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these projects we started a number of

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years ago doctor tiller he has a

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particular device some of you are

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familiar with it because I've seen it on

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prior slides the intention host device

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right it is a device or city level

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meditators imprint and intention on this

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physical device and then it can be

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broadcasted to named individuals at

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physical addresses we've done you know

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work with about a thousand people three

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pilot studies over time here I'm talking

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about a IRB sanctioned FDA exempted

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double-blind crossover study placebo

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controlled study with 200 participants

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over 18 months and the objective was to

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broadcast a health and wellness

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intention to them our our audience was

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global and we had a couple hypotheses

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one that those were unaware of the study

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and receiving no and

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Inchon would not change at all secondly

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that those that were receiving this

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intentionally intention non-locally

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would show improvement finally those not

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receiving the intention would show no

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improvement and the gains would be

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sustained and maintained after the

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broadcast was stopped so I was actually

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just chatting with dr. Paul mils of UCSD

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who is our secondary investigator about

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the results earlier and it turns out

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indeed this control that was entirely

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separated and no conscious entanglement

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they said in essence flatlined

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right and there was highly statistically

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significant improvement at point you

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know p-value zero point zero zero one

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zero zero four across you know the Neff

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self compassion inventory and the NIH

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health and wellness mechanisms and it

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turns out that there was a significant

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moderation effect for years of

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meditation experience in other words

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those folks started higher on the

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calibration scale and progressed less

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than others which i think is quite

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interesting one conundrum is that in

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this crossover design it appeared that

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both those that started in the control

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group with the first six months of the

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study and those that ended up within the

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control group in other words

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non-broadcast for the last six months of

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the study both of those groups did quite

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similarly right and now we're digging

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into the data why might that be during

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this period of time and over the past

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four years the Emerald Gate foundation

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has also been investing and frankly in

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many of the researchers in the room and

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in fact it's funded by a very successful

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businessman investor who is with us

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today in the room and this is one of his

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philanthropic efforts well Emerald Gate

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Foundation invests in a variety of areas

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as a nonprofit Enterprise focused on the

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improvement of human condition and

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expansion of conscious mind through

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enlightenment at the individual and the

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community level

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the primary mission and focus of the

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foundation is really to lead state of

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state-of-the-art research and overtime

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commercialization as necessary of the

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types of frontier science that we've

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been talking about in an integrated

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relational way across a variety of

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fields like biology physics conscious

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and energy fields and so the objective

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really is arising from you know the need

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to understand the mechanism by which

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human conscious intention interacts with

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various forms of subtle energy and

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influences biology to promote healing

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and well-being and violet biological

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systems principally as a start now there

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are three fundamental goals first to

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regularly rigorously advance and bridge

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the scientific understanding of our

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mainstream science with the benefit of

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demonstrated demonstrated alternative

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forms of healing secondly how do we

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apply this advancement and this

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understanding to the health and

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well-being of individuals and others

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impacting real humans and then finally

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how do we raise the awareness of our

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base the basis and true nature as as a

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humanity really truly based on

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consciousness right

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and so this platform indeed will involve

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integrated research directed research

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focused on a particular scientific

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paradigm and really investing in and

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working closely in partnership with

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best-in-class individuals and

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universities on a global basis the good

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news about it it that is that it is a

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reliable long-term and growing source of

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institutional capital right therefore

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it's well positioned to support directed

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and sustained programs for decades which

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is I think what we need and has the

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ability to do so in perpetuity so that

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we can ask these multi-deck decade-long

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questions which will take that level of

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persistence to resolve now you're

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familiar with our friend bill we've

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heard quite a bit about his project so I

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won't belabor this but in the end it's

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focused on his Bankston healing

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technique how does it affect tumor

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growth in mice what is the way that we

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can understand the mechanism of this

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technique and finally can we

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reverse-engineer it to make it scalable

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and application and as you can see dean

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radin and cerebus IAM mike turner john

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with michael have also been

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participating with a set of healers and

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a set of experiments one of the findings

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is that there is resonant bonding among

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the among the mice right

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as a function of shared experience

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secondly the consciousness in particular

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of the experimenter can decide who is in

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quote-unquote in and out of the study

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and that hands-on healing distant

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healing and a recording quote-unquote

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recording of the healing all of these

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things have biologic outcomes right and

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so you know what was been measured in

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the mice were really hematologic values

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and spleen weight in vitro studies of

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cancers tumor growth and indeed you know

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some publications like dose-response

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have indicated biologic changes as a

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result of the hands-on healing and

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recording secondly the healing intention

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as I mentioned can be recorded and

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broadcast some similar parallels to the

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tiller work and it turns out that the

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recording appears to have a loss of

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fidelity in that it's less efficacious

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for whatever reason and there's also

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been some anomalous healing as well

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which has implications for our placebo

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research and how we think about type 2

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errors in fact there's a very

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interesting conference coming up that

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our friend Bruce Fetzer is putting on

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the meta science conference at Stanford

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in September where we will be looking

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through scientific lens at our science

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right there decline effects there are a

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whole set of effects that are occurring

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across industry whether pharmaceutical

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or otherwise that simply need to be

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looked at by way of method methodology

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as we study these things so in terms of

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what's next the analysis of the healing

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recording and we're seeing anomalies at

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very low frequencies and perhaps there

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are clinical applications perhaps over

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time targeted toward cancer or

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Alzheimer's I'm gonna touch upon a

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couple other studies as well we have

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started a program with Garrett Yount

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Helen a Dean Delorme and Lauren

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carpenter to really explore objective

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ways to measure shifts during subtle

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energy healing others also what is the

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mechanism of action in the human body as

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a function of working with twelve

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exceptional healers 240 studies 240

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subjects with neuropathy in essence pain

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super sensitivity or numbness

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doing this over the course of six months

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looking directly at pain and

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inflammation and how that decreases and

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in particular looking at both subjective

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and objective outcomes across stress

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well-being physiology through

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questionnaires biomarkers environmental

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measures we've got both healers and

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Healy's instrumented as well as the

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environment instrumented and we're also

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using mineral water as a proxy for an

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objective measurement baseline across

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these healings and we're collecting both

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before during and after the sessions

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finally I'd like to tell you about

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something that we're doing which is

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quite a conciliatory and we'd love your

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collaboration and we've enlisted a

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number of people that used to be at the

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Samwell E Institute the organization Chi

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you know with David Newsome hominid Jane

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and Meredith's Pringle really to figure

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out how can we further the science and

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practice of this subtle energy bio field

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research by looking a crop across the

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landscape of constituents and figuring

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out what are the pressure points in the

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in this ecosystem what are the optimal

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synergies across stakeholders and how do

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we create not only a research database

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but also perhaps a systems change

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roadmap for public use in other words

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the use of everybody in this room how do

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we foster increased collaboration so

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we're starting with a stocktaking effort

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screening a set of tens of thousands of

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publications to get a research baseline

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what do we know what do we not know

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what's a credible hypothesis what's yet

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been invalidated

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so quite systematic and there were also

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interviewing researchers healers funders

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device experts policy experts and we'd

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love for some of the researchers in the

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room to participate so we're about a

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third of the way through the six month

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effort talk to many researchers that are

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currently researching subtle energy said

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you know we've identified 300 by field

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devices and we've screened and

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categorized them a set of bio field

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healers a set of funders we've

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identified and then other policy

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education and community members that are

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strategically relevant so I'm just gonna

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give you a quick snapshot of some of the

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takeaways to date so we've looked you

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know the great news is there are there's

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abundance of pertinent research over the

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past many decades turns out to perhaps

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the nobody's surprise people are not

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publishing

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by a fielder subtle energy so we are

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literally looking across two dozen

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different different domains if you will

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very few clinical trials in this area

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but published published recently and the

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clinical trials that have been done are

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in adequately powered also too few

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longitudinal studies and too few that

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incorporate the perspective of healers

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when we chat with the researchers

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fascinating things come out many

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researchers are involved in this work

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because of personal experiences right

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and they will be the first to say wow

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there's still a taboo so mainstream

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researchers are active in the work and

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but they're not interested in publishing

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or openly discussing tenured professors

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wanna assist but they won't be included

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sometimes on publications and they

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emphasize the language indeed needs to

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be shifted it's a bridge across bio

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fields healing and the language of

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academic science and of course funding

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is a barrier devices plenty mostly a

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cottage industry unfortunately rate

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evidence evidence the claims ratio is

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low and as a result all these guys get

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in trouble with the FTC and the FDA and

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there are different theories around how

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these work quantum are we fostering

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coherence are we harmonizing the body

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protected from EMF electrosmog again

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we're getting all the anecdotal and

604
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subjective comments because we think

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it's really important context

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preliminary takeaways from healers are

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that people see healing differently some

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see it as a multi-layered field some see

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it as a unified field others feel it

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others see it

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others do hands-on other and frankly

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most believe distance doesn't matter and

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they'll tell us that quite clearly they

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see healing as returning to a normal

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state as opposed to curing anything and

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they encourage acute conditions and

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focus on acute conditions like trauma

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and pain going forward and perhaps on

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you know some somatic disorders that

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have immune or hormonal components

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there's sort of mystery illnesses in the

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western domain so in summary there are a

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couple system level needs that have been

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identified to date one how do we develop

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a common language

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no there's internally and externally so

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that we can collaborate with others to

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how do we nurture and sustain community

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I was thrilled to see young researchers

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here how do we nurture them how do we

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the other develop new methodologies to

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study and get multiple perspectives on

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healing and then continue to conduct

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rigorous research rigorous clinical

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trials to share best evidence and then

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finally there may be ways to map the

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biofield

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cross validation studies with the

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devices or technologies perhaps looking

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at integrative medicine modalities and

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so you know in conclusion there are

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three areas of focus of Emerald Gate

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right now as you can probably tell we

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are very interested in what is the

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mechanism of subtle energy secondly how

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might we measure it fully being willing

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to accept that we may never be able to

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measure it in our three-dimensional

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world and that may be okay as well but

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we think it's worth giving a shot and

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then finally to the extent we get there

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what may be a set of practical

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applications that we can get in the

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hands of humans that can make a

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difference in their lives and so we'd

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love your collaboration and in fact

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badly needed to the extent that you're

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doing something that you believe can be

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relevant and assistive to this agenda

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please feel free to reach out Jason at

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Emerald Gate foundation.org secondarily

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Visa IV the system mapping project which

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over time will be made public to

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everybody there's a subtle energy

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researcher survey to the extent you're

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involved in the research it's

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tinyurl.com

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Y 3 X 3 8 3 H 7 and to the extent that

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some of these other aspects of the

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systems mapping project seem interesting

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you can go ahead and email Meredith at

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Chi dot is and I understand that we're

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running out of time and I will be around

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for the break and very much looking

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forward to collaborating with you so